download hosted by and courtesy of the Luger Forum www.lugerforum.com 1900 Swiss + Grip Safety Safety Takedown# export May 4, 1900 Swiss Parliament accepts final design of Pistole Parabellum. Commercial production begins coincident with first Swiss Military contract, production start date uncertain.One of the more interesting subcategories to pursue in Luger collecting is acquiring pistols with unit markings stamped into the frame, usu ally on the front strap of the pistol. Although the markings can vary, they can sometimes be specific enough to identify the company from which the pistol originally came, speculatively giving the … ULTRA RARE Swiss LUGER Waffenfabrik Bern W+F 1906/29 SPECIAL ASSEMBLY P-08. Heinzer. 09-22-2023 10:28 PM. by Ron Wood. 7. 18247 posts · Joined 2003. #11 · Sep 1, 2020. I have only seen E/D on magazines - must have been who was assigned to the factory, the Haenel factory who supplied magazines to the police, if I remember right. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4.1. Receiver hardened, the date was stamped into the receiver top at the same time. 2. Pistol ready for testing, the complete serial number was applied at the same time. 3. The test proof eagle was applied forward of the inspection stamps. This indicated that the pistol had fired two overloaded test cartridges without damage.Jun 27, 2020 ... Luger Appraisals #appraisals #luger #value #firearms. Brad Simpson ... Lugers and P38 Markings. MarshalZhukov•128K views · 25:57. Go to channel ...Naval markings Navy Lugers. The best way to get the information you seek is to post pictures of you gun.Jun 22, 2015 · 9. Date - is mostly obvious - but a 1920 can be a government marking or a date, so showing us helps a lot 10. Here is an unusual spot for a unit marking, this one is police. Be advised that on rare occasions you will find one on the rear strap or the back of the toggle area. Also, Navy guns may be marked on the rear gripstrap 1900-1918: Luger Unit Markings. Unit histories, in action photographs, and related accessories. 7K 2.1M May 5, 2024. 7K 2.1M May 5, 2024. WEIMAR LUGERS 1920-1933: Reissued Imperial Lugers. Army, Navy, Police. May have: 1920 Reichswehr property stamp, Weimar Army/Navy/Police unit markings, indications of Weimar Rework Weight. 0.870 kg. Contributor: C. Peter Chen. The Parabellum Pistole 08 (P08) recoil-operated semi-automatic pistols were originally designed by Georg Luger of Loewe & Company in the United States in 1898, which attributed to their popular nick name "Luger". The firm fought hard to secure a military contract, but the heavy price tags of these ... I have a 9mm 1917/1920 DWM and have been photographically recording markings and looking them up. All numbers match, including internal small parts, except for a WWII magazine, and grips. The four-digit serial number is 10XX with no suffix letter. The right receiver has the normal German military receiver proofs of 1914-1918.The only distinctive marking of these particular guns was a new date of issue added to the one already marked over the chamber. Consequently, we find the “two-date” model. (For example, a Luger that already had the date “1918” over the chamber now had “1920” above the “1918,” not superimposed upon it.Wood Grip Markings. Hi All! I just purchased my first Luger today, so excited to be joining the ranks of owners. I've been searching the forum high and low but can't seem to find the answer so hoping you can help. I purchased a 1939 marked 42 Luger, SN 8573q. I've fully disassembled the gun and it is all matching but the grips have me stumped.Help with 1917 Erfurt Markings. Attached is my 1917 Erfurt shooter, matching but refinished at some point, could someone tell me what the Unit Marking stand for? 7.R.11.7. It is interesting; in that the “11” appears both under the grips and on the back side of the trigger plate.SN 5408. The Luger or Parabellum pistol is perhaps one of the most recognizable semi-automatics in history. A veteran of two world wars, these workhorses served on land, sea, and air, and were a prized war trophy for returning Doughboys and G.I.s. In addition to German Imperial and Nazi military models, Lugers were also manufactured for police ...Luger Magazine Help. My Dad used to collect WWII stuff including a few 9MM German Lugers. When going through some his old stuff, I found a Luger magazine, and I am trying to ascertain whether or not it is worth anything. The bottom of the magazine appears to be aluminum, and it has several markings on it. On top is stamped "8434".When it comes to taking medications, it is crucial to ensure that you are consuming the right pill for your condition. Pill markings play a vital role in helping individuals identi...Hummel markings are the marks found on the underside of a Hummel figurine. These marks are used to date and authenticate a Hummel figurine. The marking usually displays the logo of...The metal surfaces bear 85% blue finish. Straw colors are strong. Nitre blue is 80%. The markings are clear and legible. All the serial numbers match. The bore ...Nazi 1936 Date Mauser "S/42" Luger Semi-Automatic PistolThis is an excellent example of an early 1936 production luger that was manufactured by the Mauser factory with the rust blue finish and straw colored small parts. This was the third year of regular Mauser luger production and the first production year to use the full date on top of the chamber area in …An easier way to initially identify your Luger is to categorize by toggle marking first - then by chamber marking within groups (chronologically for dated chambers). Once you know period of manufacture, simply refer to the appropriate subheading in this section. While some rare variations will be excluded in this generalized overview, it will ...Nov 25, 2020 · Welcome a board Retired Guy. I have done a bit of research into Police markings in the past, as I own a police P08 myself. There is a picture of a P08 grip markings in volume ii of the 'Borchardt and Luger automatic pistols', which reads S.D. II R 374, which tranlates into Schutzpolizei Dusseldorf, II kommando, Reviershaft, Waffe 374, (Municipal Police Dusseldorf, 2nd Precinct, Main force ... The change to hot salt blue was mid 1937. The WWII German Navy obtained their pistols through the Army. They have all the normal acceptance and proof marks of the Army P.08, but are identified by their Navy property mark on either the frontstrap or rear strap. The property mark is preceded by an O for Ostee (Baltic Sea) or N for Nordsee (North ...Oct 5, 2011 ... ... markings on the outside of the Luger, what it means to have "Matching numbers". At 3:20, How to load. You can fit 8 rounds in the magazine ...3 posts · Joined 2012. #4 · Jan 21, 2012. DWM Crown N Luger. I have a DWM Luger with Crown N markings, serial number is 5118 for some time and would like to know more about it. . There is no … ULTRA RARE Swiss LUGER Waffenfabrik Bern W+F 1906/29 SPECIAL ASSEMBLY P-08. Heinzer. 09-22-2023 10:28 PM. by Ron Wood. 7. Mar 11, 2007 · Last edited by RylanBrissette; 07-23-2009 at 10:26 PM. It looks like you have a very interesting Luger to shoot. This gun started life as a DWM Commercial Luger (c/N proof) and sometime--probably in the early 30s--it was reworked and proofed by the Heeres Zeugamt (weapons depot) at Spandau (SU25) for military use. The holster is for the M1904/08 or M1904/14 (1916-1917 dated) navy Lugers, is made of a rich dark brown leather and has a cleaning rod pouch sewn on the leading edge holster spine with a cover flap secured by a steel stud and slot with small circular leather end caps. On the holster body is a pull-up strap.One of the more interesting subcategories to pursue in Luger collecting is acquiring pistols with unit markings stamped into the frame, usu ally on the front strap of the pistol. Although the markings can vary, they can sometimes be specific enough to identify the company from which the pistol originally came, speculatively giving the owner an ...May 5, 2010 · BYF 41VARIATIONS. Mausers byf manufacturing code replaced the 42 code in early 1941. Its use continued until German Army contract Luger production ceased in late 1942. All 41 byf Lugers bear the late Test Proof (LTP), a P.08 stamped on the left frame panel, and have a bore gauge. Acceptance Stamps Variations. Welcome a board Retired Guy. I have done a bit of research into Police markings in the past, as I own a police P08 myself. There is a picture of a P08 grip markings in volume ii of the 'Borchardt and Luger automatic pistols', which reads S.D. II R 374, which tranlates into Schutzpolizei Dusseldorf, II kommando, Reviershaft, Waffe … The second thing I observed was that the instrument which strikes Luger witness marks must be extremely thin and extremely sharp, unlike the chisel I had at hand. Test strike #1 on the example picture is actually a double strike, because on the first strike the chisel moved too far back onto the receiver. i have a Luger magazine that I am trying to figure out who made it and when. The only markings are on the aluminum base. The markings are: 1. the serial number (8311) 2. a lower case h below the SN 3. a plus sign below the h 4. below the h an eagle with 83 below it. The eagle and 83 are very small. The body is steel, blued Thoughts please !!ORIGINAL WW1 WWII GERMAN DARK BROWN LEATHER LUGER P08 HOLSTER . MARKING "P". Opens in a new window or tab. Pre-Owned. $199.00. petargo_military (25) 93.1%. or Best Offer +$15.00 shipping. from Bulgaria. WWI German Military Holster for P08 Luger Pistol - Joseph Woll Dated 1916 - XLNT. Opens in a new window or tab.Identification of “Luger” Model P08 Pistols WARNING: Ensure the Pistol is unloaded Serial # on Frame: Serial # on Receiver: Make/Code on Toggle: Chamber Year Date/Code: Calibre: Chamber Year Date/Code Serial # on Frame *include any suffix or prefix Serial # on Receiver Make/Code on Toggle: FRAME RECEIVERGospel music has a rich history filled with talented artists who have left an indelible mark on the genre. One such collaboration that has made a significant impact is the partners...Apr 17, 2009 · Read, Study, Observe, Absorb. Whatever flavor (s) of the Luger trip your trigger, learn as much as you can about those models, their markings, and the history around that era. Knowledge is power in Luger collecting. The more you know about the Luger models you are pursuing, the more confidence, success and fun you will have in your collecting. Jun 12, 2023 ... Subscribe. How To Tell The Difference Between WW1 & WW2 Navy Lugers #shorts. 8.6K. Dislike. 96. Share.G. Unknown member Discussion starter. #1 · Mar 28, 2006. I have a DWM 1915 chamber dated 9mm Luger, 4" blued barrel. On the underside of the barrel, in front of the trigger guard, it is marked with what looks like a lower case cursive "h" beneath the serial number "59xx" and beneath the cursive letter the numbers "8,82".Members. 383. Gender:Male. Location:Tennesee and North Carolina,USA. Interests:Cowboy shooting,guns,Dawg,wife,reading,my kids. SASS# 29509. Withlacoochee Renegades and Flat Branch Ranch. Posted December 19, 2010. I ran into a Luger today in 9mm that had no makers marks or any other markings but a four digit serial number.Edward Tinker. 18186 posts · Joined 2003. #6 · Jun 9, 2018. I see what was originally a WW1 army luger that since then has been buffed and reblued. The markings, as said above are the acceptance and then proof marks on the right. See the FAQ in the new collector area for some more views and then each forum has 'stickies' at the top.The Aging Outdoorsman. The Dark Side of Spring. Last Day Duck. The Never Give Up Buck. German firearms are loaded with a variety of markings and stamps. Decoding these proof marks is very useful in determining the age and history of the gun.Hallock, describes some Imperial Luger pistol used by the Thai Police. These pistols survived WWI and were sold as surplus to the Royal Thai Police somewhere ... 792 AE !! 897 S BUG 1 916 S BUG no N 1 E no unrelieved frame 1000 1147 S no no N 2 E no 1261 Bulgarian 1408 S BUG no N 2 E no 2000 2001 C no 2002 AE no no 2 E GERMANY 2004 AE no GERMANY 2007 AE no GERMANY It is marked 1918 and 1920. What was the 1920 mark for? Second it has a different number on the rear of the main lower frame 1843 vs. 2701 on the rest of the pistol. All numbers match. Last but not least it appears to have X out unit number on the rear grip frame K and another letter and the number 10.Mark’s Work Warehouse is a popular destination for individuals in search of high-quality workwear and accessories. With a wide range of products available, it can sometimes be over...The .30 Luger pistols were mostly made for export. Is "Made in Germany" or "Germany" stamped on your pistol? Many of these were exported to the USA in this period. Your's is referred to as a DWM 1920s Commercial. The Crown/N nitro proof mark was for commercial use. Military firearms will have military acceptance proof marks that reflect …Basically, the toggle and lower parts are all marked 00. The slide matches itself, side plate and slide release are totally M/M. Its completely full of old dried cosmoline inside. Some light surface rust , but most is coming off with some break free. Minor pitting that is not into the metal, just surface mottling. Erfurt Luger Unit Marking. luger1. 05-23-2021 11:04 PM by Neil Young. 1: 2,031: Discontinued use of markings. jeb111. 03-16-2021 10:59 AM by mrerick. 18: 2,401: The metal surfaces bear 85% blue finish. Straw colors are strong. Nitre blue is 80%. The markings are clear and legible. All the serial numbers match. The bore ...Jan C Still RIP. 4384 posts · Joined 2003. #2 · Feb 23, 2005. Balder. The two stamps to the left are a crown/E (or G?) and a crown/B German Army acceptance stamps and the stamp on the right is a German eagle test proof. The reported 1911 DWM serial range is 4089b-166f. The L is almost certainally an "e" or "c".DWM became the producer of the Borchardt pistol and, in 1900, its famous successor the Luger pistol. The Luger was officially adopted by the Swiss military in 1901, the Imperial German Navy in 1906 and the German Army in 1908, which resulted in its common "P-08" designation. The standard German Army Luger used in WW I had a 4" barrel, the Navy ...3 posts · Joined 2012. #4 · Jan 21, 2012. DWM Crown N Luger. I have a DWM Luger with Crown N markings, serial number is 5118 for some time and would like to know more about it. . There is no …Herb, the answer is yes. There is on the barrel eagle/N (Nitro proof) and eagle/J (= Instandsetzung; repair). According the German gun proof law it was necessary to reproof a gun when a substantial repair was carried out. A new barrel is such a case. The repaired or replaced part of the gun received the eagle/J marking.Identifying Walther P38 markings... So, I picked up this Walther today at the local gun emporium. I tried to find out as much about the pistol as I can. Based off some ordinary resources: Welcome to the P38 Web Site.... the technical data sheet, production numbers, etc, I seem to have narrowed down that my pistol was a 1941 production …SN 5408. The Luger or Parabellum pistol is perhaps one of the most recognizable semi-automatics in history. A veteran of two world wars, these workhorses served on land, sea, and air, and were a prized war trophy for returning Doughboys and G.I.s. In addition to German Imperial and Nazi military models, Lugers were also manufactured for police ...The Luger is certainly one of the most iconic firearms in history, made so by its association with Germany during both World Wars. This Luger P.08 Pistol is dated “1918”, the year it was made. Imperial German military proof and acceptance marks are located on the right side of the chamber. The DWM monogram is prominent on the top of the toggle.The Luger/Parabellum/P08 is most commonly found as a military pistol. Its physical characteristics usually include markings of the manufacturer and date of …Jul 8, 2006 · Help with 1917 Erfurt Markings. Attached is my 1917 Erfurt shooter, matching but refinished at some point, could someone tell me what the Unit Marking stand for? 7.R.11.7. It is interesting; in that the “11” appears both under the grips and on the back side of the trigger plate. They acquired the P08 Luger tooling from the Erfurt arsenal, and began small volume P08 production in 1925. They would product just under 12,000 pistols total between 1925 and 1934. The first 600 were made with 1925 chamber dates, and the first 100 or so in 1926 were also dated, but then the markings changed to a blank chamber for the rest of ...Identify your German Luger 761B by the serial number, proof symbol, production year stamp and the manufacturer's mark. Items you will need. Serial number. Production …Even the grips match! 1940 chamber dated Luger rig with 1 original aluminum Nazi magazine not matching. 4" barrel has an Very good and shiny bore ! No import marks with a possible re-blue. 2100$. Can meet up in either San Marcos, new Braunfles or seguin. World two 223 7.62 308 ww2 1940 German Luger p08 Issue 42 Code. 5.Jun 3, 2017 ... One will sometimes encounter German WW1 arms - mostly Lugers and Kar98 carbines - that have two date stamps, one of them being 1920.14169 posts · Joined 2003. #9 · Mar 16, 2006. Hi Eric, For Swiss books written in English..you have done the best you can by buying the big Swiss luger book by Bobba. The old, small Fred Datig "Monograph IV - The Swiss Variations 1897 - 1947" is also a good read but done in 1955 and mostly superceded by the Bobba work.I am trying to figure out if this Luger holster is German or otherwise. It is not a hardshell, but thinner than regular military Luger holsters and very pliable. It has held a Luger for a very long time as witnessed by the deep, very pronounced rub marks. I don't know what the markings on the back signify, they are all the markings I can discern. %PDF-1.2 %忏嫌 12 0 obj /Length 13 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> stream H壗W踤? ? 眉 H 醚膨e邭&Yt?疗菥 XP m薄D暏夂_? 藂 $n?昀⑴9s鎣& E 琣 羅08[ N/C ... WW2 Small Arms Identification Gallery. Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and Erfurt) are in the "Lugers - DWM Commercial 1898-1929" Gallery. Simson & Company - Suhl, Germany&break;4. Mauser - Oberndorf, Germany&break;5. Vickers Ltd. - England&break;6. Waffenfabrik Bern - Bern, Switzerland&break;7. Heinrich Krieghoff - Suhl, Germany At least six pre-production Lugers are known to exist. On later production guns, matching numbered magazines enhance value. The following tables list the base forms for police unit marks found in German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. This book contains English translations of the actual regulations issued by the German authorities from the Imperial and Weimar eras, and is an …Aug 31, 2016 · 1. Receiver hardened, the date was stamped into the receiver top at the same time. 2. Pistol ready for testing, the complete serial number was applied at the same time. 3. The test proof eagle was applied forward of the inspection stamps. This indicated that the pistol had fired two overloaded test cartridges without damage. Jul 9, 2014 ... Many (but not all) military issue Lugers had unit markings stamped on their front straps but commercial Lugers should not (usually) have any ...Thanks: 33. Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts. Breakdown of P08 markings. Hi all, When I first joined the forum I posted some pics of my P08 for some general feedback and received some great information that I really appreciated. This time however I decided to post a complete breakdown of my P08 showing all the marking I could find with the …Mar 7, 2015 ... An original barrel seems to be more the exception than the rule and only one of mine has it. I do have one that has both the barrel and slide ( ...Dec 28, 2021 · When starting with Lugers, I recommend studying before buying guns. There are a huge number of variations, and many markings to become familiar with, as well as many markings. The more rare a Luger, the more opportunity for fraud and fakery. Herb, the answer is yes. There is on the barrel eagle/N (Nitro proof) and eagle/J (= Instandsetzung; repair). According the German gun proof law it was necessary to reproof a gun when a substantial repair was carried out. A new barrel is such a case. The repaired or replaced part of the gun received the eagle/J marking.Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and Erfurt) are in the "Lugers - DWM Commercial 1898-1929" Gallery. To the best of our knowledge, all the examples shown are original pre-1945 manufacture.An interesting aspect of the 1900 American Eagle Luger—presumably because of the attempt to “Americanize” it for possible military sales—is that it lacks the German proof marks so common on most pistols from that country and also lacks the “GERMANY” marking found on some German imports.
Grip Markings? As mentioned earlier, each year and variation has different grip markings and has to be considered separately. For instance, the 1936 S/42’s are mostly blank with a very few numbered with the last two digits. The 1939 42’s are mostly blank or blank with a E/655, and again very few are numbered to the gun.. Grandma buddy's christmas trees
1900-1918: Luger Unit Markings Luger Unit Markings. Jump to Latest Follow ... Have a 1915 DWM Luger. The grip is marked 105.R.9. with the R 25% taller than the numbers. Can you please help me with the unit and any other information you might have. Thanks in advance.Bronchovascular markings are the visible markings made by blood vessels supplying nutrients to the bronchi and bronchioles in the lungs seen on a chest x-ray or computerized tomogr...The Luger has all matching numbers including the magazine. The magazine is wood based, numbered to the gun. ... early proofs of the Germany military acceptance. 1910 was the first recognized year of military contract markings. Approximately 17,000, 1910 dated Lugers were reported manufactured. There was no reported 1910 models manufactured …Regimental markings command staff. There are 5 types of German unit markings reported in Luger collections that signify command or staff positions. They are listed below and consist of Head Quarters, Army Corps, Division, Regiment, and Bataillon. Lugers with such unit markings are scarce to very rare and the numbers of these Lugers reported ...There are a huge number of variations, and many markings to become familiar with, as well as many markings. The more rare a Luger, the more opportunity for fraud and fakery. The Goeff Sturgess and Joachim Goertz book on the Borchardt and Luger Automatic Pistols continues to amaze me as one of the most thoroughly researched historically ...prairiedogpat. 4027 posts · Joined 2011. #8 · Oct 2, 2021. Yes, by establishing the installation of the sear safety, (Schiwy Safety) it indicates that the pistol was used, at least, until the mid to late 1930's. It would also indicate, at least to me, that this is probably a 1932 marking and the pistol was probably in police use throw the war.These markings were added well after the pistol was produced, yours should not have them- unless it has a similar post war history. 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. GendarmerieLuger pistol. The Pistole Parabellum or Parabellum-Pistole ( Pistol Parabellum ), commonly known as just the Luger or Luger P08, [10] is a toggle-locked recoil-operated semi-automatic pistol. The Luger was …prairiedogpat. 4027 posts · Joined 2011. #5 · Jun 5, 2015. Tool and mark do not look quite right to me, but then I have not seen all tools and marks. Maybe one of the experts will come along and set things straight. Pat. "Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready." San Francisco, CA, May 13, 1903.An easier way to initially identify your Luger is to categorize by toggle marking first - then by chamber marking within groups (chronologically for dated chambers). Once you know period of manufacture, simply refer to the appropriate subheading in this section. While some rare variations will be excluded in this generalized overview, it will ...Gospel music has a rich history filled with talented artists who have left an indelible mark on the genre. One such collaboration that has made a significant impact is the partners....
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